now, a new abc/"washington post" polls believe newtown is indicative of broader problems in american society. so do you think this time things are different? the circumstances, the context, this time for a conversation about gun control is different? >> it is. and the pressure i think is going to be more intense in the days, weeks, and probably months following this on politicians to act. it's not just because of the horrific details of this, as awful and almost unprecedented as they are, but there's also sort of a trend here that i think it's 6 of the 12 worst mass shootings in u.s. history have happened since 2007. so there's this growing awareness of, wow, this is reaching like, you know, serious proportions right now, and if you think -- >> but, steve, but steve, so we're happy to have mull. shootings in a city like chicago, multiple shootings in atlanta, but it takes an absolute massacre for us to respond? >> yeah. >> is that what you're saying? >> it's unfortunate. i think the parallel, the last time there was serious gun control movement in this country was the early 1990s wit